How do we get a definitive answer, one thing I know is, that if it was left to the anti Manchester United English media the answer would not be Manchester United fans (it just wouldn’t be allowed)  fortunately though I’m going to investigate and look a little deeper beneath the hype than those cretins in fleet street who make me sick with there sycophantic adoration for two clubs whose supporters don’t deserve it. I mean if they changed the word Loyal for Stupid, Ugly or deluded i wouldn’t have a problem.
After consulting my Oxford English Dictionary, found the definition of the word loyal is: Constant, firm in allegiance to a cause. Well I’ve been going to football since 1966 and always had a hanker for statistics  and obviously must  have a memory a lot better, than those fleet street hacks, whose memory retention would seriously struggle to challenge that of a goldfish. Is it just me or do you also get pissed off with the constant KOP or TOON this, and KOP or TOON that, always bigging up the KOP and the TOON army, when we know the truth.
So here are some facts to justify my contempt for the Maggots….Pre- Keegan average attendance at St James Park of 16,000 in 1981 followed by 17,000 in 1982, Remember that’s average attendances not the odd game or two…
Even nowadays the press look to excuse their pathetic turnouts, A EUFA cup game in Palermo against a team that was top of Italy’s Serie A at the time, all they could muster was, at  most 180,  its not a misprint, I don’t mean 1800 really 180. High unemployment, difficult to get to! blah..blah..blah
Anyway I could go on giving numerous examples in the intervening years of gates between 10 and 15 thousand for Newcastle  home games, but by now you must have my point and hopefully understand my frustration at the word loyal been associated with Newcastle United, conclusively proving that their supporters been the most loyal in football is PURE FICTION.

As for the vermin, the press’s love affair with them mystifies me, why is it only United fans see through those despicable excuses for human beings, just what can we thank those ‘lovable rogues’ for; The introduction of the stanley knife! not only did they earn the reputation for never fighting with even numbers, they would then attack lone supporters ten handed and  cut them with the stanley knife, they get us banned as a nation from europe for years, and because of there actions force all seater stadiums on us
domestically, changing the match going atmosphere from tribal hostility to that of a night at the opera!
Do i really need to carry on,and still the media love them glossing over the CS gas attack on uniteds players the Shit Slinging and Toilet smashing, Munich singing, ambulance attacking… sorry! i hadn’t finished..And still the media pander to the myth about them. Yet if a united fan so much as breaks wind during one of their many minutes silences held at Anfailed during the season we are labelled scum with sky even putting up sub titles on their news bulletins for the hard of hearing..

As for loyalty, well during uniteds 26 year wait for the title we had a higher average than liverpool 24 out the 26, with the other two years Old Trafford undergoing major rebuilding work..now liverpool have gone 22 years without a title and guess what, not once have they managed a higher average attendance than us… though the scouse loving media, will use the excuse of the differing capacities nowadays, no such excuses during the 70’s and 80’s their golden period supposedly…

So just who are the most loyal, and how do we find out?

Using the now well used chant “Where were you, When you were Shit?” as a guide I have  produced a table, using the four teams whose supporters would claim the title of most loyal, and Chelsea just to show what an embarrassment their following really is..

What I’ve done is to find a decade in the last 50 years, each of the five teams listed was least successful. (Supporting your team when you’re not winning is surely the best guide to Loyalty)


             TEAM LEAST SUCCESSFUL DECADE SINCE    1961                                             AVERAGE   ATTENDANCE FOR                  DECADE
      CHELSEA 1981-1990              5yrs in old Div2               18,642
NEWCASTLE UNITED 1981-1990              5yrs in old Div2               22,716
         CITY 1991-2000              3yrs  Div2               27,292
       LIVERPOOL 1991-2000              no title               38,816
       UNITED 1971-1980               1yr  in old Div2               48,802

Even with total average attendances since time began, United top the list averaging over 40,000 followed by Liverpool at 34,00-.

Would you believe it, the most berated set of fans in football, the prawn sandwich brigade turn out to be the most loyal fans in Britain. Not that the media would ever give us any credit. All they do is find any excuse to criticise, slaughtering the atmosphere  at Old Trafford, when its actually no worse than any other, in the new all seated stadiums created since the Taylor report. Silence at Anfield, St James Park, Villa Park, Goodison Park etc, is completely ignored, never commented on, whereas if Old Trafford isn’t rocking for ninety minutes they compare the atmosphere to that of a morgue, and a ground full of glory hunters.

So a round of applause to all you  fellow United fans, your loyalty is unsurpassed, the best in Britain.

Notice I’m saying Britain; It gives me an opportunity to put into print a few home truths about those Bigots north of the border.
Celtic and Rangers really do give the Geordies a run for their money as Bullshitting supporters, using the analogy, if you say it often enough, then it must be true, was made for these loathsome creatures. Ideally I would loved to have added them to the earlier list created, showing there average gates during the seventies or eighties, When Aberdeen had the audacity to challenge their automatic right to win everything, i cannot believe how both clubs have tried to erase the past. Its not possible to get any attendance figures from 1966-1990 period, non of the plethora of websites they both have publish any attendances pre-1990, I know why the embarrassment would be excruciating for them, gates of under 20,000 the norm for them both, with averages not much higher. Even only as far back as 1993 Celtic only averaged 22,000, with one home league game that season attracting 10,602. Loyal supporters my arse!  The Biggest Glory hunters in world football.
Without doubt Celtic fans are the biggest bores you could ever have the misfortune to meet, immediately telling everyone know how loyal they are, and what a massive world wide support they have (Yawn). Both Clubs though reminisce about their one European triumph, which personally I think is an absolute disgrace, considering they probably are the only two clubs in Europe who have been guaranteed European football every season since it began in 1961.
Celtic fans would have you believe Lisbon in 1967 was suburb of Glasgow for the night, and Rangers fans make out they filled the Nou Camp, Barcelona for the 1972 Cup winner’s Cup final.

Try not to laugh now….but the attendance that night in the Nou Camp was 24,000 it must have looked magnificent in a stadium that could hold 130,000 at the time.
As for Celtic, the attendance was 45,000 in an 80,000 stadium, Have a look at this newspaper cutting from the time..


And back to how boring Celtic fans are, it’s not long before they are telling everyone how many fans they took to Seville (yawn yawn). I’d say it was about 75,000,
WOW, All it does, is reinforce everything I’ve said about them been the biggest glory hunters in world football. I remember at the time Alan Brazil and other radio pundits all having a big Celtic love-in, urging fans to travel without tickets for the crack.

Contrast that to United in Barcelona 1999, we  were literally  told that we couldn’t go down the bottom of the road without a ticket, and we’d be arrested at airports, train stations, and on ferries when searched, if we didn’t have a brief. We still easily matched Celtics turnout, and put Liverpool’s 30,000 in Istanbul to shame, but have the media ever given it a mention, it must be an unwritten code never to give any credit to United fans from the Scouse infested press.
One day Celtic and Rangers fans will wake up and smell the coffee! All supporters from other clubs throughout England and Europe are not laughing with them, we’re laughing at them, they are a joke.
As for them joining the English premier League, Are you having a laugh?
i remember Alan Brazil and Mike Parry at Talksport, questioning, if we in England could cope with their massive support.
Well Cowdenbeath, St Mirren, and Alloa manage every week with grounds only holding five thousand, or do they only go when they play friendlies in England, PART TIMERS TO A MAN.


  1. Absolutely brilliant Ken. I enjoyed reading the facts and not the fiction. You should send a copy to Barney.
    You could have cut the vermin with their own Stanley knife by mentioning the fact they could not sell all their allocation which caused the fatalities at Hysel.
    RIP those unfortunate fans.

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